Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/29/2003 03:20 PM House O&G

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HB 246-OIL & GAS AUDITS & ACREAGE LIMITS                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0079                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOHRING announced that the  only order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 246, "An Act  relating to the limitation on upland                                                               
acreage that a person may take  or hold under oil and gas leases;                                                               
and providing for  an effective date."  [HB 246  was sponsored by                                                               
the House Rules Standing Committee by request of the governor.]                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0118                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARK  MYERS,  Director, Division  of  Oil  & Gas,  Department  of                                                               
Natural Resources,  explained that  HB 246 recognizes  changes in                                                               
the state's oil and gas leasing  programs and changes in the view                                                               
of economics  relating to some  Interior basins and  other areas.                                                               
Now there is an expanded  leasing program, he reported, with much                                                               
more   interest  by   traditional  North   Slope  explorers   and                                                               
developers  and by  newer "independents"  that have  picked up  a                                                               
sizable amount of acreage.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYERS noted  that  current  state law  limits  a company  to                                                               
500,000  acres  of onshore  non-unitized  acreage.   He  said  he                                                               
believes the purpose  of that well-thought-out law  was to ensure                                                               
a  competitive  environment in  which  no  one company  dominates                                                               
Alaska's oil and gas industry.   Along with increased interest in                                                               
Interior basins since  [enactment of that law],  however, two new                                                               
programs have been passed.   One, exploration licensing, allows a                                                               
company to  pick up to  500,000 acres  with a license  that later                                                               
can be  converted to  a lease  if the  work commitments  are met.                                                               
Thus a company  with a single exploration license  in an Interior                                                               
basin might  use its entire statewide  accumulation in converting                                                               
to leases, which  would make that company ineligible  to "play in                                                               
other  areas."    Under  that  program,  the  exploration-related                                                               
economics  aren't  seen as  being  highly  linked from  basin  to                                                               
basin, Mr.  Myers said,  "so we don't  see the  competitive issue                                                               
there that would exist, ... say, on the central North Slope."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYERS reported that the other  new program is the shallow gas                                                               
leasing  program, under  which a  company can  get up  to 100,000                                                               
acres   that  would   count  against   the  company's   statewide                                                               
accumulation [limit], an  aggregate of 500,000 [acres].   He told                                                               
members:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     We think  a larger number  is more appropriate.   We do                                                                    
     understand the original intent,  ... we believe, of the                                                                    
     500,000 acres  to the  North Slope.   To that  end, the                                                                    
     incremental  change in  the bill  is  to increase  that                                                                    
     number from  500,000 to  750,000; so,  incrementally, a                                                                    
     company could  pick up  250,000 acres.   But  there's a                                                                    
     catch:   no more than 500,000  acres can be on  ... the                                                                    
     traditional  North  Slope,  and  we  picked  the  Umiat                                                                    
     [Meridian] baseline.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0350                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYERS pointed to a map on the wall and mentioned areas where                                                                
traditional state lands for oil and gas [development] have been.                                                                
He explained:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     We  don't  particularly  want   to  see  an  additional                                                                    
     concentration   of   ownership   in   that   area,   in                                                                    
     particular, but in  other areas south of  that line, we                                                                    
     think   it's  appropriate,   again,   because  of   the                                                                    
     geological distinctness in the  basin, the large amount                                                                    
     of state  land available,  and the  desire to  see more                                                                    
     exploration  licenses and  more leasing  ... under  the                                                                    
     shallow gas  program, in  addition to  potentially more                                                                    
     leasing on shore in [the] Cook Inlet area.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ...  We  think this  falls  within  the intent  of  the                                                                    
     original  500,000-acres  [limit]  but  expands  it  and                                                                    
     creates  better  opportunities.    We  also  know  that                                                                    
     several of our explorers and  developers are near or at                                                                    
     the 500,000-acre limit, which  prohibits them or limits                                                                    
     their  ability  to  be  able   to  purchase  leases  or                                                                    
     licenses south of  that line.  So,  again, we're trying                                                                    
     to expand the ability of  current companies that are at                                                                    
     or near their limit and  encourage companies to pick up                                                                    
     maybe two exploration licenses -  those sorts of things                                                                    
     - which they [may] convert to leases.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0439                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLM asked what non-unitized acreage is.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYERS answered:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Under  state law,  once  production starts,  basically,                                                                    
     almost all the production from  the state is ... in oil                                                                    
     and gas units.   An oil and gas unit's  an aggregate of                                                                    
     leases  put together  either for  joint exploration  or                                                                    
     development.   The unit then ...  typically extends the                                                                    
     primary  term   of  the  lease,  but   also  has  work-                                                                    
     commitment  requirements. ...  The  primary  term of  a                                                                    
     lease is  basically for the initial  exploration phase.                                                                    
     Once  you find  something,  our lease  is [for]  either                                                                    
     seven- or  ten-year periods.   You're going to  go well                                                                    
     beyond  that  primary period  in  the  production.   So                                                                    
     there needs  to be a  mechanism, first of all,  to hold                                                                    
     those leases.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Finally, our oil fields are  typically much larger than                                                                    
     a  single  lease.   So  you  want  to produce  that  in                                                                    
     common,   through   common  facilities,   to   maximize                                                                    
     production   and  to   maximize   performance  of   the                                                                    
     reservoir  as well.   So,  to do  that, the  leases are                                                                    
     aggregated together, formed into  what's called a unit,                                                                    
     which  holds those  leases beyond  their primary  terms                                                                    
     ... as a net operation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     There's typically  a single unit operator,  then, and a                                                                    
     single set  of facilities, and then  multiple well pads                                                                    
     drilling  into that  unit.    So ...  it's  sort of  an                                                                    
     economic  and a  physical unit  designed to  extend the                                                                    
     leases,  but also  to see  aggregate  production.   The                                                                    
     unit must be  based on the underlying  geology, and the                                                                    
     work  commitment  must  be  appropriate  to  developing                                                                    
     [the] underlying resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     And then, ultimately, units contract  to ... very close                                                                    
     to the size of the  actual reservoir, ... what's called                                                                    
     a  participating area.   So  units initially  start out                                                                    
     larger;  they can,  from  that  point, either  contract                                                                    
     down  to  the  size  of  the  reservoir  or  expand  as                                                                    
     additional reservoirs  that are produced  through those                                                                    
     common facilities  are found and discovered.   But they                                                                    
     (indisc.)  by production,  so those  ... leases  within                                                                    
     those units are exempt from the 500,000-acre limit.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0608                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA asked  how many companies are  at or near                                                               
the 500,000 acres  right now and whether any  companies have come                                                               
forward saying  they feel they  are being precluded or  that this                                                               
will result in too much acreage in one company's hands.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYERS highlighted the four  major players currently.  He said                                                               
right now  the companies at  or close  to the limit  are Anadarko                                                               
[Petroleum Corporation]  and Petro-Canada;  under the  limit, but                                                               
not significantly  so, is ConocoPhillips [Alaska,  Inc.].  Noting                                                               
that BP  at one  time was [near  or at the  limit], he  said, "Of                                                               
course, with their divestiture, it's  probably not an issue."  He                                                               
went on to say:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     As far as concerns, I  think legitimately people can be                                                                    
     concerned  with owning  too much  acreage  in a  single                                                                    
     basin. ... And we're  trying to increase competition in                                                                    
     areas  south  of the  Umiat  [Meridian]  baseline.   So                                                                    
     there may be  some companies that might  oppose this if                                                                    
     they  see this  as  creating more  competition in  that                                                                    
     area.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     There's  also, clearly,  a philosophy  that we  need to                                                                    
     accelerate development,  and by allowing  more acreage,                                                                    
     there is a counterargument  saying that you might defer                                                                    
     people  from  developing   their  existing  acreage  by                                                                    
     letting them acquire more,  or diluting their potential                                                                    
     capital for exploration in that area.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The counterargument  to that  is, ...  I think  I agree                                                                    
     with that on  the central North Slope,  [but] moving to                                                                    
     these new  areas, you need  a large amount  of acreage;                                                                    
     that's what that exploration  license is about, because                                                                    
     you have  no proven potential  in those areas,  and ...                                                                    
     you need  a core  baseline to build  the infrastructure                                                                    
     to  produce   those  hydrocarbons.    So   you  need  a                                                                    
     significant quantity of oil and  gas in that area.  And                                                                    
     to do  that, you have to  acquire a lot of  acreage and                                                                    
     [do a lot of] exploration to do it.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     As  a basin  matures, that  changes. ...  In a  mature,                                                                    
     producing  area,  maybe ...  the  number  would be  too                                                                    
     large.   But  in frontier  basins, where  clearly we're                                                                    
     trying to attract capital -  like in our license areas,                                                                    
     for example, Nenana basin -  a company needs to be able                                                                    
     to  acquire  a  substantial  position  to  justify  the                                                                    
     exploration capital,  the risk, and then  to capitalize                                                                    
     a significant quantity of oil or gas.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0801                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARK HANLEY,  Public Affairs Manager, Alaska;  Anadarko Petroleum                                                               
Corporation,  told   members  he'd   like  to  echo   Mr.  Myers'                                                               
testimony.  He said Anadarko  Petroleum Corporation is supportive                                                               
of the  bill and  appreciates its  introduction by  the governor.                                                               
He acknowledged that  his company is approaching and  is right at                                                               
the  500,000-acre limit.   He  noted that  the foothills  [of the                                                               
North Slope],  in particular, has  large areas that  haven't been                                                               
explored for a long  time, and said [a company] can  use up a lot                                                               
of its acreage just trying to understand what might be there.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0861                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOHRING asked  Mr. Hanley  whether he  thinks the  750,000                                                               
acres is a good number for the limit.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANLEY said he thinks it is reasonable.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOHRING noted  that he  hadn't  asked Mr.  Myers how  that                                                               
number was chosen.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0883                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOHRING  asked whether  anyone else  wished to  testify and                                                               
then closed public testimony.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0911                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE moved to report  HB 246 out of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
note.   There being no  objection, HB  246 was reported  from the                                                               
House Special Committee on Oil and Gas.                                                                                         

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